Yep, I can nod my head to this and still feel great about him defeating Kerry in the next election.

Why, because:

a) I don't think much of that is pertinent to the job as President,

since the sites you quote from are hatefully biased, I assume the information is skewed to look a lot worse than it is, and

c) even as skewed as it is, I think *any* democrat's fiscal and international policy would be far, far worse for the country.

Let me say it again...

I think God Emperor Bush in full, red-velvet Napoleonic regalia would be better by far for America than a limp wristed, tax and spend, run-from-every-conflict, fall-in-line-with-the-UN liberal.


"If this is the type of Candidate Republicans support, then they are in bed with the same morality as the Clinton Democrats"

Does it ever feel like you are preaching to the choir? Anyone anti-bush is gonna just nod, and anyone pro-Bush is not gonna be moved by your sledgehammer tactics.

You rant, but you don't persuade. Maybe if you tried a bit more diplomacy and a little less belligerence your point might find more fertile ground. As it stands it feels like someone who hates everything I believe in is just yelling derision at me. Your posts have the same persuasive power as "YOUR MOMMA!!"

Not a good way to get people to change their minds.

Thanks for the reply
You should read the developments in the illegal revealing of the identity of a CIA operative for the reporting by her husband there was no WMD deal between Iraq and Africa. There are a lot of archived articles on Bush's history at the site, you are right. Glad you went to read them. Hey tell a friend.

Np. I will.

And please don't think I have anything against you personally, or even your ideas. I think you just pose them in such a way that provokes the same tone, ya know? I'm not saying giving back is any more righteous than getting, but people are reactionary. I am, anyway.

I think what you lack in understanding "We the opposition" is that we are most always voting more "against" than "for". Like I said, if tomorrow Bush was found guilty of everything you posted, I still couldn't vote for Kerry. At most I wouldn't vote at all. No doubt much the same as Democrats, or else Clinton wouldn't have had a prayer.

No worries

It is insightful what you say and true. Yet memes have a way of working magic over time. A study of how women's liberation worked its way into the American conscience applies to politics as a whole. MLK, Jr. used the same tactics of conscience v. brute force. In the end, Republicans tend to be more moralistic in their holdings. To show that they are being deceived and ill-used is but one step of a process. There were once a large majority of them who felt (note felt, not thought) Bush could do no wrong. Over time they have grown to understand Bush is a traitor when convenient and has no regard for them. He is not a Republican as much as an elitist who could care less for working Americans. Slowly he has betrayed them as Clinton betrayed the Democrats.
Remember there was a time Democrats wanted his face on Mount Rushmore. Today they laugh at Clinton the clown, who was a scam artist. The same goes for Bush. He is a man, and a rather un-virtuous and cowardly one at that. He puts on his pants the same as them, and faced with a moral decision, will make the choice most Republicans would not. Over time, they will come to see him as a man not a demi-god.
We take him off the pedestal first, then show the fruits of his decisions, such as the legless and armless women and men veterans. These victims of his fraud, who served their Country with distinction, and who learn he was unwilling to do the same when in a like position, will feel his betrayal strongly. Once turned to the reality of his cutting benefits for veterans, delays in providing treatment, elimination of overtime pay for their service, the course becomes clear.
You see Bush doesn't just need votes, he has Diebold to provide the fraudulent votes for that. He needs endorsement of his policies and this is felt by his fellow Republicans in the Senate and House. He needs these vets to rise on November 6 and decide he is worth taking the day to go vote and endorse his frauds. He is losing the moral high ground and will eventually lose the will of a Nation to fight and die to endorse his Haliburton and oil profit scams.
The way to do this is expose truth as to his real self, as opposed to the Rush Limbaughs opinion feeding. The polls show he is fading as the truth comes out that he is not a great man at all but a silver-spoon fed coward who has not compassion or empathy for America and its suffering. Opening our steel markets to foreign markets, is not as he says, making Americans competitive as the greatest and most productive nation, but a coward betrayal of his country for Foreigners and done in a way that will cause steel industries to close and move overseas. He can't hide behind such nonsense and betray us and say it is to make us better able to compete.
It is working, witness how this site and other talk shows now shout down opposition on Chris Matthews and Dennis Miller. They have no point of view and are just trying to avoid the truth of what Bush is and what he's done. In time they'll get with it or go down as Rush and Bush are. John Adams was once popular,and in one term was having riots in the streets due to his allegiance to Britain and arrogance toward Americans. The same is happening to Bush. We know he is un-American and does as Israel and Britain says. He'll lose to America's self preservation instinct in the end. We'll survive Bush, as we survived Adams, so keep faith and let the truth be known.